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“But in fact, that vision was fulfilled in a way that had…” — The Ezra Klein Show at 24:28

“But in fact, that vision was fulfilled in a way that had absolutely nothing to do with us. It was not the case that we wrote a bunch of columns, persuaded a bunch of Republicans to become more populist and lo and behold, you know, a populist version of Marco Rubio was elected president in 2016.”

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