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“But eventually people said, well, you know, what if I had…” — Software Engineering Daily at 45:55

“But eventually people said, well, you know, what if I had a native compiler? And I don't remember if your dad, Mike Ball, he was around in those early days. He was one of the first ones, yeah. I don't remember if he was at the dinner I'm about to describe. It's funny that here our interviewer is like the son of the…”

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