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“native compilers that didn't transpile to C, but were…” — Software Engineering Daily at 46:38

“native compilers that didn't transpile to C, but were native compilers for specific platforms. Walter was doing it for DOS and then soon after that for Windows, which was really important for C++ success. Then there was Sun and so forth. But the anecdote was they're sitting around this dinner table because now there…”

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