“But that really showed me, like, that experience was…” — Aging & Raging at 24:18
“But that really showed me, like, that experience was helpful for me because it really showed me that, like, it is not about the physical sensation. Like, he's breathing the whole time. He's trying to tell me something else about how he's feeling. Right. It's not about logic either. I'm not hearing what he's trying to…”
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