“And we hear from Billy Ray's father, who says that Mike…” — Perhaps It's You at 29:06

Perhaps It's You S6 Ep12: Megaman Walrus

“And we hear from Billy Ray's father, who says that Mike didn't have anything to die for. No more than Billy had anything to die for. And neither one of them committed suicide. They just didn't do it. So Billy Ray Hargrove and Michael Carmichael led very similar lives. They both had planned careers in the military…”