“He was apparently just starting out in his career. He was…” — Perhaps It's You at 14:21

Perhaps It's You S6 Ep5: An Unwitting Accomplice

“He was apparently just starting out in his career. He was very naive. I understand. But at the same time, he was like, is it legal to use stamps for this type of document? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't worry about it. It's fine. And Joseph Smith was just like, they're busy men. They can't come here and sign…”