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“Well, it's just to name the expeditions. So to be like…” — Lore Boys at 43:04

“Well, it's just to name the expeditions. So to be like, this is trip one, two, three, four, five. They did blue, green, yellow, violet, whatever. Maybe don't think of the writing as an exercising creative. Well, it is an exercising creative writing, no matter what. Don't think of it as a short story, though, I guess.…”

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