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“And what do they lose when we have these, they lose a…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 25:39

“And what do they lose when we have these, they lose a little bit of goodwill, right? A little brand tarnishment, but not much, not losing enough trust that they're not making money on transactions where it's like credit company, you got trust that credit card company in order to actually use their card.”

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