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“Yeah. It's wrong. It's like the road to there is paying…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:08:59

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source Securing npm is table stakes (Interview)

“Yeah. It's wrong. It's like the road to there is paying with potholes and thieves and people with weapons and stuff trying to take me out.”

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