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“private sector use. Well, they'll hire a room full of…” — CyberWire Daily at 12:15

“private sector use. Well, they'll hire a room full of smart guys, sit there, study it for a year, then it'll come out. Yes, it's safer. No, they need to fix this. No one's got time for that. So things are moving so quickly and we become used to a world of both great opportunity, new capabilities, but we accept some…”

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