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“It didn't look that great. It was in black and white, but…” — Stuff You Should Know at 18:19

“It didn't look that great. It was in black and white, but it was a big hit immediately. And he said, not because it was wonderful, but because it was theirs. It belonged to the black people. A year later, he moves to L.A. and said, I'm going to do the show for real here. This is where it became nationally syndicated…”

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