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“posits the example of, say you encourage someone to…” — Cato Audio at 20:33

“posits the example of, say you encourage someone to jaywalk and that person jaywalks and gets a $50 civil fine, but then you get charged and convicted of a felony punishable by up to 10 years. That would seem quite a mismatch. That would seem not really to comply with due process. And yet that's essentially what can…”

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