“I think that's right. But, you know, I think that's the…” — Cato Audio at 21:27
“I think that's right. But, you know, I think that's the court's duty. The court is finally engaging more after years of real deference and hands off on a lot of these issues. It's finally engaging. And I think, you know, what we're seeing is because the court is engaging, it is subjecting itself to a lot of criticism…”
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