“I mean, it's such a conundrum, really, to think about the…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:13:40
“I mean, it's such a conundrum, really, to think about the state of things, but like everything is literally changing. We didn't expect this to be where it's at a year ago, like a year ago, the conversation was this direction, but not where it's at currently.”
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