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“They are. They are. But if you don't like the defendant…” — True Crime Brewery at 51:55

“They are. They are. But if you don't like the defendant, you're really not going to like their lawyer. I'm sure. So it's really a tough job to have. I do have some sympathy for them. Someone has to represent these people. Yes. And that's sort of the corollary to that is that the defense lawyers are viewed as being…”

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