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“It became pretty clear to me, at least over the last…” — Pod Save America at 16:32

“It became pretty clear to me, at least over the last couple of weeks, that Republicans are never going to give on the subsidies. Never. Just not going to happen. I think that was a foregone conclusion, at least not in the context of a shutdown. Maybe they'll have a negotiation now, but they were not going to do it in…”

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