“17, 18. It's 20. At 18, you become an adult. There's a…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 41:12
“17, 18. It's 20. At 18, you become an adult. There's a sense of object impermanence. You know what I mean? You draw on your shoes. It doesn't matter how much your shoes cost. You're drawing on your shoes. It's the same idea. You're writing on desks in school. There's a disregard for everything that's not you…”
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