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“It is really not attracting people. People want to really…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 29:27

“It is really not attracting people. People want to really take decisions on a lower level. So basic ideas, take decisions on the lowest possible level. However, empowerment is not anarchy. You have a clear strategy with that set boundaries. This is where you want to go within that frame, within your responsibility.…”

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