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“very complicated right now. And Siemens is a very big…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 4:47

“very complicated right now. And Siemens is a very big, very complicated multinational operating in that world. I'm curious how you are thinking about that. Let me just start at the start. Siemens isn't a consumer company. I think a lot of Dakota listeners have seen the logo, but maybe don't understand the company.…”

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