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“Okay, doesn't get you closer. But no, the point is you…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 6:07

“Okay, doesn't get you closer. But no, the point is you have to look behind the curtain and then you see what Siemens technology does. When you see a car passing by, eventually all of them are touched by Siemens technology. Is it either cars are designed by our technology or they are manufactured? Every third…”

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