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“less costly than if they stand on their principles and…” — The Vergecast at 45:21

“less costly than if they stand on their principles and Elon Musk gets mad at them. And I think that is just ridiculous for two of those powerful companies on the face of the earth. Yeah, I don't know what else the dynamic could be if it's not that. If it is fear of what happens if you pick the fight is worse than…”

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