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“All that occurred. We never got to see Johnny Ives' car.…” — The Vergecast at 11:25

“All that occurred. We never got to see Johnny Ives' car. Which, again, I would remind everyone, the best-selling car in the country is like a midsize crossover, and Johnny Ives designing a midsize crossover was fundamentally doomed from the start. Anyhow, I just don't think it matters if the backend is Gemini or…”

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