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“Sorry, but I do have some hope. What I think is…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 16:37

“Sorry, but I do have some hope. What I think is interesting, though, is that one of the things you mentioned in your testimony, and I just glossed through some of the details from that was that, you know, while you said all those things and while you mentioned all those human nature feats, we must somehow navigate…”

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