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“but happy to get into it to solve this crisis. Such a big…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 28:31

“but happy to get into it to solve this crisis. Such a big topic, man. So that's what I was telling you, Jerry. Like when I sat down with him, I was like, oh my gosh, he almost made my head explode. I think we talked for like two hours. Didn't we? It was a deep conversation. I feel like I took a ton of notes that I…”

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