“If you go down like four levels deep and you ask…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 32:57
“If you go down like four levels deep and you ask questions, it's just almost almost embroiled in someone doesn't like because they think it's going to be bad for environment. So, you know, well, is dying and fires OK for the environment? I mean, even the water there, you got the challenges in California with that.…”
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