“Wow, that's a question that is very, very difficult to…” — Pod Save America at 48:19
“Wow, that's a question that is very, very difficult to answer. But I'll try to answer it this way in one of his own quotes. And that quote was, the ultimate measure of a human being is not where one stands in times of comfort and convenience, but where one stands in times of challenge and controversy. He went on to…”
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