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“wanting those companies to do better or worse. That's not…” — Pod Save America at 58:25

“wanting those companies to do better or worse. That's not about trading. That's just about having things in your portfolio. And that continues even if it's a blind trust. There's no like perfect answer for any of this. I just don't know how the blind trust works. I mean, you have to liquidate your holdings and then…”

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