“Right. There's no penalty that makes not breaking the…” — Pod Save America at 1:01:19
“Right. There's no penalty that makes not breaking the rules worth it. If a stockbroker did that, they would go to jail. The yeah, I mean, I like the blind trust thing, like how it works exactly. I don't know. But for the most part, traditionally, it has been all right. My lawyer is now in charge of this. It's in a…”
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