“even if you put things into blind trust, that is a…” — Pod Save America at 1:04:30
“even if you put things into blind trust, that is a conflict of interest. It's like we're wasting our breath. Articulate the downside. The members of Congress are sad that they can't... And by the way, the other thing too is like... They would say that, you know, this is... Please, yeah, I hate this. I hate this.…”
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