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“I never said that. What are you talking about? And…” — Pod Save America at 55:15

“I never said that. What are you talking about? And everybody's like, wait, we were there. It was in paper. Everybody knows that you say. He's like, no, no, no. I don't know what you're talking about. I never said anything like that. And it is this sort of 19th century iteration of gaslighting where people were told…”

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