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“Yeah. And by the way, that point you made about the…” — Pod Save America at 1:18:43

“Yeah. And by the way, that point you made about the challenge of figuring out a causal relationship between events or policies and crime is historically true as well. I mean, when we talk about the drop in crime since 70s or the 80s, no one really knows exactly what happened or why. There's lots of debates, right?…”

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