“Yeah, it does seem like this is a communication challenge.…” — Pod Save America at 21:40
“Yeah, it does seem like this is a communication challenge. And look, we faced it with the Recovery Act back in 2009. And like the media environment was getting so much worse, so much more difficult. And like, you know, even if the New York Times or the Washington Post write a big story or the local or like in…”
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