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“his personality doesn't come across the same way. And…” — Pod Save America at 24:29

“his personality doesn't come across the same way. And things are pretty scripted and tight right now, as they are with most presidents. And I know they're trying to do more of these events where instead of like a big event or a big rally, they just have him in a room with like 10, 15 people. And, you know, even the…”

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