“are horrendous. And most people just look at this as the…” — Pod Save America at 4:47
“are horrendous. And most people just look at this as the hush money trial and they don't, they're like, how does this affect me? And so he can sit there and just like say what he wants to say and then, you know, go out to the reporters and literally make up whatever. And that is better than if he, for him, than if he…”
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