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“And though to even be clear, like it's not like he did…” — Crime Junkie at 41:31

“And though to even be clear, like it's not like he did anything once he saw that Kevin had been arrested and committed. Right. This has been decades on now. And it's when he's confronted. But now at least he's finally telling something resembling the truth. Gerald likely was the man that Kevin saw by the van when”

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