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“sold that Richard is their guy. And one person in…” — Crime Junkie at 24:27

“sold that Richard is their guy. And one person in particular, Mary Catherine, who, mind you, is the only witness to Elizabeth's kidnapping. She is the one who saw someone take Elizabeth. She literally said, Richard's not the guy. It wasn't his face. It wasn't his voice that she heard. And they're just like…”

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