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“I mean, I'm sure they were I know Ed for sure was but he…” — Crime Junkie at 17:24

“I mean, I'm sure they were I know Ed for sure was but he knew that these kids were his responsibility I mean he had gotten them this far by doing what the kidnappers told them to do But they were out of options right now I mean he knew if they stayed where they were they would have almost likely suffocated to death”

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