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“And it was a, I suddenly realized we had sort of tapped…” — Dateline NBC at 4:06

Dateline NBC Talking Dateline: Conversations at CrimeCon Part 1

“And it was a, I suddenly realized we had sort of tapped into something that I had not seen out there. So I can't believe any credit for this because I was, not only not my idea, I thought they were nuts.”

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