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“Yeah. You know, and some people, you know, had sort of…” — Dateline NBC at 21:10

“Yeah. You know, and some people, you know, had sort of lived lives without consequence. You know, if you've gotten away with a lot of things in the past, even if it's not murder, you might think, well, I can get away with this too. You know, the verdict in Wisconsin suggests”

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