“Didn't really want to talk. Right. I mean, that's…” — Dateline NBC at 12:57
“Didn't really want to talk. Right. I mean, that's something that we're familiar with. But it was ultimately once he kind of started to build some credibility and people said, OK, maybe maybe he's on to something here that people started to open up. I mean, we're familiar with that. Right. I mean, imagine being, you…”
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