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“this idea about recording, getting him in a lie. You know…” — Dateline NBC at 15:54

“this idea about recording, getting him in a lie. You know, all of this stuff was like, they really had the best of the best on this case. They did. And you know, when I asked all of them, I mean, it was so clear when I sat down with all of them, that determination was, I mean, that was real.”

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