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“And so that's how we came together. We'd had a prep…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 21:51

“And so that's how we came together. We'd had a prep meeting for this on the Hoot the Groupton, which sails up and down the coast of Norway. Okay. And we had a workshop in Oslo, we flew up to the tip of Norway, took this ferry slash cruise ship down and had long conversations on the ship,”

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