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“the next two weeks, they were always canceled because it…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 24:12

“the next two weeks, they were always canceled because it wasn't. And then we had, you know, another two hour meeting. And I was like, hold on, like we're like, even in the terms of the planning or just talking, we're not agile. Like, no, no, we are agile. Like, we are, we are, we are hearing the”

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