“But it definitely, if you don't do the work to be an…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 25:10
“But it definitely, if you don't do the work to be an extreme programmer, you're never going to claim that you are just, it's, it comes with to me, downsides at the time. And by the way, for that meeting, I was sick as a dog. I had a massive sinus infection. I was on all kinds of drugs.”
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