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“pushing at that meeting was conversational, where this is…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 25:50

“pushing at that meeting was conversational, where this is in the monologue. It's a dialogue. And we do some stuff and we see how it goes. And we do some stuff and we see how it goes. It's not sexy, it's not got a lot of pizzazz to it. I can understand why it wasn't accepted. But the dilution of that”

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