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“It's a choice though. His statement in that interview with…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 42:21

“It's a choice though. His statement in that interview with you was that there's no place in TE4 design, and he's just flat out wrong. That's a choice. As a practitioner, I'm bouncing between levels of abstraction all the time. I'm thinking, let's get this next test case running. I'm thinking,”

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