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“of a dread like, Oh, what they're going to do, et cetera.…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 1:13:30

“of a dread like, Oh, what they're going to do, et cetera. But the more I use them, I'm not at your level. The more I'm also like, this is actually it does bring a lot of fun and joy back into them just more ambition. Yep. Yeah. And I think that organizations are going to have to”

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