“the managers, even the skip manager, because I remember…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 17:12
“the managers, even the skip manager, because I remember when I was cutting, they told me like, yeah, like sometimes we do let people go and stuff like that, but I don't see it that way. I just see it as like a bad culture. And they were trying to be nice about it. But again, it was, they weren't even”
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