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“in the direction of like, even for companies, like they…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 1:20:53

“in the direction of like, even for companies, like they have to be a person now, like they have to be a personality. They have to approachable. Yeah, like approach relatable. Yeah, relatable, like a human, right? Like not just a corporate figure, even for CEOs, sometimes like, you know, it helps the”

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