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“But a lot of it is just hoping that Abbott will back down…” — Pod Save America at 31:33

“But a lot of it is just hoping that Abbott will back down, which doesn't seem particularly likely. And not thinking, I asked him specifically, are you prepared to do this through December? And he just wouldn't go beyond saying they're doing it through the special session and not trying to be in hypotheticals. And I…”

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